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Showing posts with label Dobropole. Show all posts

Sunday, June 15, 2014

Evidence that a Russian unit was involved in firing the GRADs at Dobropole

(Thanks to @hdevreij who inspired me to make this page.)

Here are some photos of the destroyed GRAD taken from this site.







Do YOU know what buttons to push and how to aim?





Note the logo on the door:





Now first: these are not machines that can be operated by local boys who want to join the militia.
Second: since when does a regiment rent out its equipment to local separatists?
Third: the logo of the 18th Motorized Rifle Brigade is on it.


These are some photos taken from this website:




Note how the logos are the same as on the GRAD.

These logos do NOT appear on every average Russian military truck that is send to Ukraine:



There is also a photo of firing GRADs on that site:


Note how the camouflage colors of the 18th are EXACTLY THE SAME as the GRAD that was found.

Here are some Ukrainian GRADS, with different appearance:



Fourth: we already know there are Chechens, Cossacks, Ossetians and many other Russians fighting in East-Ukraine, we know the commander of them all is the Russian Strelkov.

Conclusion:
A RUSSIAN UNIT was involved in firing these GRADs.

And for the trolls: Listen, when a local man wants to join the militia he even has to be trained to operate a RIFLE!!! Where is the training camp for learning to operate a GRAD? Seriously? It was a RUSSIAN UNIT.

(If you have any corrections or additions, please let me know. I will verify it and adjust accordingly.)


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Video showing the firing of GRADs by the Russians towards Dobropole

This video is showing the firing of the GRADs towards Dobropole, which was done by the Russian 18th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade:



Here are screenshots of the video:





It is near a railway with at least 4 rails with it and a big building.
This is the location:



Blue is the view when the rockets are fired.
Dotted blue is the view in the last screenshot above.

This is a screenshot of the rockets being fired:



On a grand scale the map looks like this:


Blue = cameraman
Red circle = known target being hit
red line = trajectory of rockets


For more details about this attack look here.

A photo taken from the website of the  18th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade shows how these GRADs fire:



UPDATE
@TukvaSociopat had been able to determine the location of the abandoned GRAD:


Also see: Evidence that a Russian unit was involved in firing the GRADs
Also see: Russians caught firing a GRAD
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Friday, June 13, 2014

Russians caught using a GRAD to attack civilian area in Dobropole

In the morning of 13-6 a civilian area near Dobropole has been attacked with GRADs by Russians. A vegetable depot got hit and a one man died. Yet, the GRAD caught fire and had to be abandoned.
Here are some messages about this event:

And here are some movies from it.

http://vk.com/video-69950749_169893850








The geolocation of the depot can be found here:



Now the BIG QUESTION is: why would they go all the way to Dobropole, which is in NON-Russian occupied territory?

It seems they had 3 of these GRADS, of which one is destroyed now. And the other two have  returned to Horlivka.

This map shows what must have happened:


All the markers are known (pro)Russian checkpoints taken from this site. It shows the rebel-controlled area (dotted red line). The Ukrainian controlled area is basically the rest (blue dotted line).
Dobropole is in the red circle.

Since the remaining two GRADs returned to Horlivka, they might have initially started their operation from there too.
The route from Horlivka to Dobropole is selected by avoiding the main roads where Ukrainian checkpoints are, and also avoiding villages as much as possible. With a normal car this might be 1:41 hours driving. With GRADs maybe 3-4 hours?

This means when they drive very early in the morning they will not likely be detected and filmed or photographed.
Of course their plan was to attack and then get back to base without being noticed again.

IF they had succeeded in this, how would this have looked like? It would have looked like as if the Ukrainians indiscriminately attacked civilians, because it was in the middle of THEIR territory...

But luckily the plan failed.

Conclusion:
PLEASE DEAR READER understand this: SINCE THE BEGINNING the (pro)Russians have been staging deadly scenes to blame 'Right Sector' and 'Nazis' and you name it. It is their nature. They go to great length to get this done, because when they win the Information War, half of the battle is already won.

UPDATE:
Aah, look: the Russian Trolls ARE using this to blame Ukraine:


This how they transported the GRADs into Ukraine. Disguised as trucks!

Great link with photos of aftermath.


Also see: geolocation and video of firing these GRADs
Also see: Evidence that a Russian unit was involved in firing the GRADs

(If you have any corrections or additions, please let me know. I will verify it and adjust accordingly.)
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